not just us then!
we are on our 3rd attempt at runners too! first ones - too leggy and died in the late frost, second - rotted in the pots and did not germinate.
Planted out the third attempt about 2 weeks ago and have got 2 flowers! but had ran out of seed for all the canes I have erected, so had to buy some more, final attempt have just germinated in pots, will be going in this weekend - fingers crossed!