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ohhhhhhhh someone wheeled out the old looney left 'racist' blunt instrument.
They knew exactly what they were doing right from the start.They should follow the law of this land like everybody else or face the consequences.
Why should they be allowed to not pay their way like tax paying normal folk.
my post sounds racist?, what have I said it the post that was racist?
do you think these Types buy their caravans, 4x4's, Static homes, tools to do their rubbish block paving, guttering and fascia jobs by legitimate means?, no they don't
Quote from: mpdjulie on September 19, 2011, 09:17:22Why should they be allowed to not pay their way like tax paying normal folk. Everyone who lives in the UK pays tax. If you mean Income Tax, that is the most insignificant tax we have. Don't forget the Vehicle Excise Licence/Road Fuel Tax, Council Tax and the most significant one of all, VAT. Don't forget that the last one costs you approx. one sixth of what you spend. So don't rant on about taxpayers.
Well 'That bit' I did not like to read in the press this week was when the police raided a Travellers site and found men being held against their will I believe the term 'Slaves' was used, being made to work laying block paving and other work what these Travelling types do, now that's what I call Racism,
The reports I read was that these people the Travellers held in captive had no rights what so ever and suffered humiliation of all kinds at the hands of the Travellers, so in my book that includes Racism,
Quote from: louise stella on September 19, 2011, 23:01:24You do not pay council tax or water rates in ireland - but it's something that is being looked at.The Irish govt giving travellers new carvans and cars to come over here to live in? Oh come on - what red top did you read that one in?***************But - I do think they should be moved on - however 36 "caravans" have planning permission and will stay. The 53 that do not should be moved on. I could afford about an acre of agricultural land around here - how nice it would be to do that and buy a "park home" to live in. I could then grow all my own veg and have lots more chickens and a horse or two! I could sell my house to do it and have no mortgage! Why don't we all do that? the answers simple really - we'd be thrown off in the blink of an eye! I hate red tape like most people do - but I am law abiding! Caravans have wheels so they can move - simple! It's a fact it happened years ago before your time, do you think these Types buy their caravans, 4x4's, Static homes, tools to do their rubbish block paving, guttering and fascia jobs by legitimate means?, no they don't unless you have been on 'Big Brother',
You do not pay council tax or water rates in ireland - but it's something that is being looked at.The Irish govt giving travellers new carvans and cars to come over here to live in? Oh come on - what red top did you read that one in?***************But - I do think they should be moved on - however 36 "caravans" have planning permission and will stay. The 53 that do not should be moved on. I could afford about an acre of agricultural land around here - how nice it would be to do that and buy a "park home" to live in. I could then grow all my own veg and have lots more chickens and a horse or two! I could sell my house to do it and have no mortgage! Why don't we all do that? the answers simple really - we'd be thrown off in the blink of an eye! I hate red tape like most people do - but I am law abiding! Caravans have wheels so they can move - simple!
Quote from: Mr Smith on September 20, 2011, 18:46:35Quote from: louise stella on September 19, 2011, 23:01:24You do not pay council tax or water rates in ireland - but it's something that is being looked at.The Irish govt giving travellers new carvans and cars to come over here to live in? Oh come on - what red top did you read that one in?***************But - I do think they should be moved on - however 36 "caravans" have planning permission and will stay. The 53 that do not should be moved on. About 50,I could afford about an acre of agricultural land around here - how nice it would be to do that and buy a "park home" to live in. I could then grow all my own veg and have lots more chickens and a horse or two! I could sell my house to do it and have no mortgage! Why don't we all do that? the answers simple really - we'd be thrown off in the blink of an eye! I hate red tape like most people do - but I am law abiding! Caravans have wheels so they can move - simple! It's a fact it happened years ago before your time, do you think these Types buy their caravans, 4x4's, Static homes, tools to do their rubbish block paving, guttering and fascia jobs by legitimate means?, no they don't unless you have been on 'Big Brother',Excuse me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"Before my time" - so you are a mind reader now and know how old I am ???????
Quote from: louise stella on September 19, 2011, 23:01:24You do not pay council tax or water rates in ireland - but it's something that is being looked at.The Irish govt giving travellers new carvans and cars to come over here to live in? Oh come on - what red top did you read that one in?***************But - I do think they should be moved on - however 36 "caravans" have planning permission and will stay. The 53 that do not should be moved on. About 50,I could afford about an acre of agricultural land around here - how nice it would be to do that and buy a "park home" to live in. I could then grow all my own veg and have lots more chickens and a horse or two! I could sell my house to do it and have no mortgage! Why don't we all do that? the answers simple really - we'd be thrown off in the blink of an eye! I hate red tape like most people do - but I am law abiding! Caravans have wheels so they can move - simple! It's a fact it happened years ago before your time, do you think these Types buy their caravans, 4x4's, Static homes, tools to do their rubbish block paving, guttering and fascia jobs by legitimate means?, no they don't unless you have been on 'Big Brother',
You do not pay council tax or water rates in ireland - but it's something that is being looked at.The Irish govt giving travellers new carvans and cars to come over here to live in? Oh come on - what red top did you read that one in?***************But - I do think they should be moved on - however 36 "caravans" have planning permission and will stay. The 53 that do not should be moved on. About 50,I could afford about an acre of agricultural land around here - how nice it would be to do that and buy a "park home" to live in. I could then grow all my own veg and have lots more chickens and a horse or two! I could sell my house to do it and have no mortgage! Why don't we all do that? the answers simple really - we'd be thrown off in the blink of an eye! I hate red tape like most people do - but I am law abiding! Caravans have wheels so they can move - simple!
Quote from: Mr Smith on September 21, 2011, 22:10:29The reports I read was that these people the Travellers held in captive had no rights what so ever and suffered humiliation of all kinds at the hands of the Travellers, so in my book that includes Racism, what's the ISBN of your book?
May I just point out that racism is a most serious matter. If you think that a post is racist, you should report it rather than debate it. Racist posts will not be tolerated.Equally, inflammatory language isn't helpful to reasoned discussion.
Racism does exist and I won't tolerate hatred of people just because they happen to come from a different country to me,don't look like me or speak the same language.What I can't stand is not being able to debate issues like for eg Immigrationand being branded racist.As I said before...a clever ploy that gags people.Problem is real racists do join in such debates and their ignorant comments lower the whole thing to the gutter.