Biblical knowledge

[Delilah]

Does anyone know where to find the PARABLE OF THE SOWER in the bible

[Delilah]

[wardy]

Try Luke 8

[Glyn]

Matt 13..I think it's verse 18?

[Glyn]

Is it in em both

Not sure Wardy?

[Delilah]

found it Luke chapter 8

Thanks folks!!!

[Juliet]

Is it in em both then Glyn, or am I  wide of the mark as per  ;D

As well as Luke 8, it's also in Matthew 13 (though verses 3-9, with the explanation in 18-23) and in Mark 4 (handy cross-references in my Bible!)

[redimp]

I think ladybird do a book dedicated to it.

[Palustris]

That is why Matthew,Mark and Luke are called the Synoptic Gospels. They contain much of the same material, possibly from a lost original single source.
By the way, the explanation of the Sower shows that it is not actually a parable. The Parable of the Good Samaritan is, but the Sower story is...................what?

[Glyn]

"It's not Sunday... is it?"
;D ;D ;D ;D

[moonbells]

That is why Matthew,Mark and Luke are called the Synoptic Gospels. They contain much of the same material, possibly from a lost original single source.
By the way, the explanation of the Sower shows that it is not actually a parable. The Parable of the Good Samaritan is, but the Sower story is...................what?

The sower is indeed a parable as far as I can see. I take it that parables were written to make points in situations where a listener might deny that it fits him/her if told directly.  But indirectly, by analogy, a point may be made successfully.  I think Aesop's Fables are the other major parable-based piece of literature.

How many folk here think the stories in the Bible are nice little stories but that's all?? They are the path edge.  Or were once believers but not any more because of something that happened that was perceived as unjust? They're the stony ground, with no roots.  Or believed but couldn't change their lifestyle or attitudes despite everything? They're the thorny ground. The fertile soil is easy - those who believe and continue to despite all trials.

Jesus knew a fair bit about human nature!!!

moonbells

[Glyn]

Jesus knew a fair bit about human nature!!!

Well put Moonbells. :)

[Palustris]

Sorry Moonbells, but in terms of definition of what is a Parable, then the story is not one, because each element within it has a meaning, whereas a true parable has only a meaning as a whole, as in the Good Samaritan. The Story of the Sower is  an extended metaphor or an allegory. The effect is the same though.

[Glyn]

"Half a dozen of one-six of the other" :)

[Jill]

The sower's whatsit isn't the same as the wheat and the tares thingy is it?  Son got into choir so went to service last week.  It was parish harvest festival and reading was read by a brownie with very poor diction.  The church had also used a modernised version of the reading so that 'tares' became 'weeds'.  Wheat and weed became completely indistinguishable and destroyed the whole meaning of the thingy  :(.  There were also some rather awful 'modern' hymns about runner beans and cabbages with tunes that the words didn't seem to fit to.  Give me 'We plough the fields and scatter' any day!

[Glyn]

 

there were also some rather awful 'modern' hymns about runner beans and cabbages

"In da Bginnin God cre8d da heavens & da earth," or,
Newsflash: There were drovers camped out in the paddock nearby keeping a eye on their mob of sheep that night. Their eyes shot out on stalks when an Angel of the Lord zapped into view and the glory of the Lord filled the air like 1,000 volts. The angel said: "Stop looking like a bunch of stunned mullets. Let me give you the drum"

Luke Chapter 2, Verses 8-21 from the Australian version of the Bible
It gets worse Jill. :(

[moonbells]

Stunned mullets!

Oh dear now I'm laughing... 

I don't like all of the modernisation of hymns with thees and thous replaced, often with something ungrammatical. Choruses and modern hymns I don't mind; they were *written* like that and some are truly beautiful (and as Jill says, some aren't...) but why oh why can't they leave the old ones alone?

Didn't like them fiddling even when I was a teen.  I've just found out I'm sidesman for the modern carol service rather than the traditional and I'm trying to see if I can swap. That and the modern's led by the teenagers and their drama group which I can't personally stand, though they are very good at getting points across with modern parables! Probably why I can't stand it - parables are supposed to make us uncomfortable!!

moonbells

[Jill]

Stunned mullets, indeed ;D

I have always loved the recording of Kathleen Ferrier singing 'Blow the Wind Southerly' but didn't expect to be singing that melody to alternative, soppy, sentimental ill fitting words in the service this morning.  With a hang over from a good night at the pub yesterday it was the last thing I needed, especially as it was pitched so high! 

You're right Glyn, it does get worse ;)

[Carol]

Much to the  pleasure of our Minister, the Church of Scotland appears to have created a hymn with the tune of the 'Flintstones'.  It was tried and tested few weeks back, but didn't like it.  Kept seeing Fred chasing Wilma while I 'sang' it!!!!   Yabadabadoo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Glyn]

"Sinner's..Meet the sinner's..They Yabadabadoo all day"
                             
You've gotta be joking Carol?
;D ;D ;D ;D

[Jill]

  ::) ;D ;D ;D

Oh please, please, don't let it cross the border, Carol!

The choir sang an anthem this morning: Howard Goodall's arrangement of 'The Lord is my shepherd'.  it's a really nice piece and they sang it beautifully.  Trouble was the congregation couldn't stop sniggering - it was the theme music to the Vicar of Dibley.