Planned already?

[djbrenton]

With all the seeds I've ordered now arrived from all over the world, I seem to be a few months ahead of last year ( as far as planning goes, if not digging )

Similar size list to last year. Anyone else put the cart before the horse already?

Tomato      Principe Borghese
      San Marzano Redorta
      Black Prince
      Costoluto Fiorentino
      Cuor di bue - ox heart
      Mr stripey
      White Wonder
      Brandywein Pink (Suddoth strain)
      Brandywein red
      Auntie Madges
      Red Cherry
      Yellow Pear
      Cherokee Purple
      Banana legs
      Garden peach
Aubergines   Black Beauty
      Thai Yellow Egg
      Brazilian Oval Orange
Sweet Peppers   Californian Wonder
      Pimiento
      Banana Sweet
      Corno di Toro
      Purple Beauty
Chilli Peppers   Serrano
      Jalapeno
      Fresno
      Cherry Red
      Caribbean red
Cucumbers   Painted serpent
      Marketeer long
      Lemon
Pickling Cucumbers   West Indian Gherkin
      Homemade pickles
Melons      Small Persian
Watermelon   Black Diamond
Fennel      Florence   
Potatoes      International Kidney
      Wilja
      Salad Blue
      Sante
      Sarpo Mira
      Cara
      Pink Fir Apple
      Highland Burgundy   
Lettuce      Iceberg
      Black seeded Simpson
      Tom Thumb
      Paris Island
      Red Romaine
      Prize Head
      Bibbi
Endive      Broad Leaf Batavian
Leaf Chicory   Rossa Di Verona Tardiva
Rocket      Wild Rocket
Celeriac      Celeriac del veneto
Celery      Sigismund
Cardoon      Cardoon Gobbo di Nizza
Snow Peas   Gigante svizzero
Peas      Early Alaskan
      Alderman
      Ambassador
Borlotti      Borlotto Bean of Vigevano
Cannellini Beans   
French Bean    Manteca
      Cobra
      Purple queen
      Golden wax
Pole Bean      Lazy Housewife
      Trail of Tears
      Anasazi
Broad Bean    Aquadulce
Runner Beans   Desiree
Southern Pea   Mississippi Cream
Sweetcorn   Ornamental Indian
      Stowell's evergreen
      Earlibird
Cabbage      Mammoth Red Rock
      Early Jersey Wakefield
      Late Flat Dutch
      Golden Acre
      Michihili
Savoy Cabbage   Invernale Mantovano
Broccolli      Purple Sprouting
      Calabrese
Brussel Sprouts   Eclipse
Cauliflower   Early Snowball
Collard      Georgia Southern
      Vates
Spinach      Bloomsdale long standing
      Giant Noble
      Cavolo nero
Collards      Georgia southern
Kale      Curly
Carrots      Danver's half long
      Scarlet Nantes
      Tendersweet Imperator
Beetroot      Cylindra
      Cosbys Egyptian
Parsnips      All american
Turnips      Amber globe
      Purple Top White Globe
Radishes      Easter egg
      Plum purple
      China White
      White icicle
      German beer
Salsify      Scorzanera Geante Noire de Russie   
Spring Onions   White Lisbon
      Ishikura
Leeks      Musselburgh
Onions      Stuttgart
      Red Baron
      Senshyu
Pickling      Paris Silverskin
Shallots      Golden Gourmet
      Red Sun   
Garlic      Chinese White
      Marco   
Courgette      Black Beauty
      Yellow straightneck
      Lebanese white
Squash      De Nice a Rond
      Patty Pan
      Vegetable spaghetti
Pumpkin      Connecticut field
      various west indian
Artichoke      Violetta
Jerusalem    Artichoke   
Chard      Swiss Chard of Lyon
      Bright Lights
Mustard      Southern giant
      Florida broadleaf

[djbrenton]

[Bionic Wellies]

Wow ... where are you going to put them all?  What you got? - a farm (and infinite amount of time). 

Best of luck
-- Alan

[tim]

Same sort of question - how many of each 'greenhouse' type plant? And how many in the greenhouse?

[wardy]

I order seeds willy nilly but do nothing about where to sow them.  Planning - no, not me.  I let things develop spontaneously.  I really don't like planning things - it's just not in my nature.  I suppose my seed order is planning in a way isn't it?  :)

[Emma K]

I thought my seed order was long enough - is all that going in one allotment?

Emma

www.losingtheplot.blogspot.com

[Mrs Ava]

Wow!  A breathtaking list which should keep you in veggies for the next 10 years!

Me, I have a rough plan for next year, but tend to just think of areas, so an oniony area, a brassica patch, a pumkin patch etc, then plant things as they are ready, or as I have time!

[delboy]

Ay caramba! That list has scared the willies out of me. I have 1.5 allotments now, but as I still have at least half of that planted with overwintering veg/onions/garlic, I'd need another 2.5 plots just to find space. The toms alone would be a whole plot!!

And the time...

[the_snail]

Well I sorta planned but I am expecting it to all go to pot. Due to I am going to cover my plot in sheeting to kill weeds so it is dig a bit then plant a bit I am affraid. Unless I can get a fair bit of digging done over winter then I will plan for that bit :)

The_Snail

[djbrenton]

I've got 3 x 600sq yd plots plus some of the less active gardeners are quite happy for my overspill to occupy ground they'd be in trouble for not cultivating.

I grew a similar list this year, with 3 x 15ft greenhouses + a smaller one.  I grow 34 toms indoors, 6 melon, 6 cuke and up to 12 aubergine, 24 sweet pepper and loads of chillis.
When you get 50 varieties for £11 from seedfest it seems daft just planting one sort of cabbage etc and with plenty of seed left from last year and new varieties this year, I'm still only planning about 2/3 of the varieties I've got

Additionally, part of my impetus now is to make the gardens as interesting as possible for the open day, hence the colour diversity in toms etc. There are a few of us onsite who like heritage seeds, so the list will probably grow as we swop plants next year.
The biggest problem is early season, as so many people seem to want the varieties, last year I grew and gave away over 200 tom plants for example. One woman entirely stocked her plot with plants I gave her ( toms, various beans, sweetcorn, cardoon, aubergines, cukes, gherkins, peppers and squashes. My trouble is I really enjoy growing the plants. I lose a certain amount of interest when they're all grown and sampled. By August I seem to spend more time preserving etc than gardening.

[karrot]

wow , i don't even know what some of those are ,the only thing i successfully grew this year were carrots, hence the name. I'm still being laughed at for trying to get my broad beans to climb up Cains

[flowerlady]

Good grief, are you going to live on them too?

Make certain you keep us all posted with a barage of photos too!!  ;)

Good luck.

[Annadl]

Who is going to eat them all??

The list made interesting reading ;D

[agapanthus]

Totally fantastic. I grew 84 different varieties this year and had great fun doing it. Any chance of a list of your seed merchants?

[djbrenton]

seedfest.co.uk for a lot ( they offer 50 varieties for £11 )
seedsofitaly for some of the toms.
A lot of seeds are bought for me by an american friend and shipped via mail
www.heirloomseeds.com
www.victoryseeds.com
and www.durango.com for the anasazi beans. For imformation, they are a bean that was discovered and germinated by archaeologists, previously grown by the cave dwellers who preceded the Navajo.
I decided to buy specific strains of Brandywein after reading this
http://www.victoryseeds.com/information/craig_brandywine.html
I've also got 3 seeds of Craven 99 ( world record 28ft sunflower ) and 3 of Mammoth Russian from www.pandpseed.com

Oh and I forgot to list calaloo which I saved seed from a crop grown from plants given me by one of our West Indian gardeners.

I'll be offering loads of obscure varieties on the swap board once I've sorted a list out.

[flowerlady]

DJ is there anything left that you might like to swap seeds for?   Yous is such an exotic  list.

I have been reading the victory seeds link on chillies, do you grow yours inside or out?

Also you toms?  My were a total failure this year.  I only have ouside to use.

[spacehopper]

Wow, that's quite a range of seeds you've got there. Look forwards to swapping with you.  :)

[djbrenton]

I'm lucky enough to grow all my toms, chillis etc indoors. I'm told that the Cuor di Bue (beautiful heart shaped tom ), Principe Borghese ( standard sun drying vine tom ), San Marzano Redorta ( massive plum ) and Costoluto Fiorentino I gave to others did well outside, although we did have a pretty warm year.

I'm hoping the name flowerlady is a clue, as despite having enough ( uninteresting ) flower seeds to beautify a couple of large roundabouts, I could be seduced by any more intersting flowers, especially ones suited to a wild area/pond surround ( I'm putting in both formal and wildlife ponds this winter.

[tim]

My Fiorentino were very disappointing - ripening on the plant to a grotty orange-yellow. Indoors. But productive.

[agapanthus]

thanks dj will be scanning the sites tomorrow!!  ;D

[flowerlady]

oo DJ,   I will give it some thought.  I think I will be able to help you there.  I will get back to you.