Allotment abuse TV channel

[Jtint]

I'm looking for a programme that I think was aired on Channel 4 (UK) a while back, about allotments of course. The scene I recall had footage played back from a secret camera hidden by the owner on their patch where he finally saw who was destroying his patch, I don't know if it was just him or lot of other people who were affected but you could hear to his disgust with what he thought.

Does this ring a bell with anyone?

Thanks!

[Jtint]

[Kea]

I don't know but I could do with having a battery powered security camera for a similar problem.

[telboy]

Suited to the Shed perhaps?

[Jtint]

Was "Suited to the Shed" a Channel 4 programme? I can't seem to find anything online about it.

[PurpleHeather]

I saw something a few years back (before moble phone cameras and when videos were newish) where there was a fued between two allotmentholders and one of them was deliberately destroying the other's crops.

It was not CCTV but the victim did set up a 'hide' and caught the other guy with a knife slicing up his courgettes on a video camera.

He got done for criminal damage, was fined and lost his plot.

I have to say that we have had thefts on site we strongly suspect have been carried out by disgruntled ex plotholders but can not prove it. They knew the system, who had what and where and probably have got access keys to the site still (or copies made).

Security is expensive and on the one occassion a local dog walker took a clear photo of an intruder they saw doing damage. The police could not identify the person. It was a kid and I am certain that any local headteacher should have been able to identify that kid from the picture which was pretty clear.  To be fair. Perhaps it was a kid from another area who was visiting his other parent, as they do.

Security is very hard and expensive to employ. Particularly when plot holders who are the last ones on site seem to think that it is too much trouble to lock up. Or have not brought their keys with them.

I have received phone calls from people who have forgotten their keys to ask to be released from the site. Complaining that 'SOME ONE HAS LOCKED ME IN'.

I asked how they intended to secure the site as the last person on. when they left .......SILENCE

They all had a long wait I can assure you.

One idiot thought that as they could identify the person who locked them in. The committee should reprimand that person.

People are hard work

[ceres]

Was "Suited to the Shed" a Channel 4 programme? I can't seem to find anything online about it.

I think what Telboy was suggesting was that the topic would have been better posted in The Shed where more members would see it as a lot don't read The Watershed.  I moved it to The Shed for you.

[PurpleHeather]

Ceres

Has any one ever suggested to you that some times you are over active and hard work?

A heart of gold and a sence of fairness you have ......................

BUT..................Sometimes......................

LUV YA

YOU DO TOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH............XX

[ceres]

Awwww, thanks PH, that's kind of you to say so!







































The cheque's in the post  :-X

[Nigel B]

I saw something a few years back (before moble phone cameras and when videos were newish) where there was a fued between two allotmentholders and one of them was deliberately destroying the other's crops.

It was not CCTV but the victim did set up a 'hide' and caught the other guy with a knife slicing up his courgettes on a video camera.

He got done for criminal damage, was fined and lost his plot.

I have to say that we have had thefts on site we strongly suspect have been carried out by disgruntled ex plotholders but can not prove it. They knew the system, who had what and where and probably have got access keys to the site still (or copies made).

Security is expensive and on the one occassion a local dog walker took a clear photo of an intruder they saw doing damage. The police could not identify the person. It was a kid and I am certain that any local headteacher should have been able to identify that kid from the picture which was pretty clear.  To be fair. Perhaps it was a kid from another area who was visiting his other parent, as they do.

Security is very hard and expensive to employ. Particularly when plot holders who are the last ones on site seem to think that it is too much trouble to lock up. Or have not brought their keys with them.



....SNIP......

I do remember the program you describe. Was it a program about nightmare neighbours perchance....?

Anyway.... Site security...
I hate cctv. With a passion. I believe it to be invasive and often misused.
Y'know, and I've checked, cctv does not have any significant effect on crime prevention. .... Hard to believe? It should be, three-quarters of the Home Office Crime Prevention budget is being spent on the things...
Amazingly, even though every major study, most of which funded at least in part by the Home Office themselves, show without any doubt that cctv does not have any significant effect on crime, we still pour money hand-over-fist into a nationwide spy system that is the envy of every Communist State, every dictatorship and every oppressive regime the world over.   >:(... And still with no significant effect on crime.  :-X


Good community relations will reduce crime. Technology doesn't. Our increasing reliance on these systems is simply doing ourselves out of what we desire, crime prevention.    These systems, which are often used as an excuse to remove local beat bobbies, and unless manned 24/7 by trained and alert data controllers, simply allow the crime to be committed in the hope the perpetrator can be identified and arrested at leisure. 
The victim is still the victim though.
What good is cctv footage of someone wearing a balaclava beating your mum up for her handbag and it's contents of nothing more than a few pictures of family, some tissues and a couple of quid? What part of 'Crime Prevention' has cctv served in return for three-quarters of the crime prevention pot?

Nothing, that's what!


Does anyone know if it is legal to film someone covertly on an allotment? I would expect some degree of privacy on my own plot. Fences and hedges are allowed up to a height of ..... can't remember.... but allowing them would suggest privacy can be expected to a certain degree at least.
Why I'd...... I'd....  :-X



:P

[Jtint]

I agree, a prevention is better than a cure a community policing forms the crux of that. Anyway, I found that video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPtKk8wIKcU