sourdough

[ACE]

Who makes it and how do you make it, Millions of chancers giving advice on the web, but most must be taken with a pinch of salt.  Our first effort needed a hacksaw to slice it and I expect it is negative calories judging on the effort needed to chew it

[ACE]

[tricia]

I've pm'd you my recipe  ACE.

Tricia 

[Tiny Clanger]

Sorry, never tried to make sourdough bread. I do however have a recipe for "Herman the German" cake, which employs a similar principle.

[galina]

Needs longer to rise than normal yeast bread.  Sometimes much longer.  Is your sourdough starter bubbling vigorously?   If in doubt, you can start with a commercial dry sourdough sachet.

[Palustris]

Hi Ace, nice to see you again. All well and fit?

[BarriedaleNick]

I make it most of the time. Mostly comes out ok with the occasional "It's taking too long and I'll throw it in the oven regardless"  - basically it takes all day!
There is an obsession with high hydration sourdough which can be difficult so I stick to tried and tested ratios.
My starter is always 50/50 so I can work out what the ratio of flour\water I need.
So 170g starter
500g flour
300g water
15g salt

Mix it all together and let it sit for 40 mins. Then I use my Kenwood to knead for a few mins.
Plop it in bowl
Then every 30 mins for 2 hours I stretch and fold it or pull the "corners" over. Then leave till it rises.
Knock back.
Into a bread basket lined with parchment paper.
Heat oven to max - with a cast iron pot inside.
Grab the parchment paper with the bread, score and drop into the iron pot. Lid on
Leave on max for 10 mins - remove lid - cook on 190 ish for 35 mins.

This should give you about a 65% hydration - you can add more water if your flour is very strong...

[ACE]

My problem is the flour I want to use to make a low G loaf. Everything is bubbling, rising and doing the right thing. But trying to use rye or wholegrain flours make it a bit dense. Ideal as an all day breakfast as it take quite a while to chew it.

[galina]

I think you are trying the near impossible with low gluten sourdough and whole grains that tend to be denser.  This  tends to be a bit like pumpernickel type bread, which is black and dense and needs to be cut into very fine slices to be easy to eat.  In this case the sourdough is a flavour, rather than a fluffy consistency and if you have the breadmachine on a quarter inch setting or less, it should still work. 

[Deb P]

I agree with the post above, it's going to be difficult with that mix.
I use a mix of rye flour about 20% and wholemeal flour with seeds 50% and 30% strong white flour for my loaves, sesame seed oil and rolled in more seeds and baked in a preheated pot as mentioned above. It does make for a moist denser type loaf with a nice crust but not at all difficult to chew! I use Nancy Birtwhistles seed bread recipe, her Fb and Instagram pages are great for recipes and she has a lot of gluten free ones, you could even message her and ask if she has any suggestions?

[ACE]

She has just proudly waltzed in the door heaving a rather large box that contains a bread machine with all the bells and whistles, supposedly also makes sourdough. The reason I was trying rye sourdough was to get some low glycemic bread. You can buy it from waitrose but a tad on the expensive side and with the government stopping  my winter gin allowance was on the list to stop buying. Now she does not really have to bother with the sourdough although I do like the taste and she can make wholewheat loaves instead. Going out to the watermill later to get some proper flours.

[Deb P]

Do you have Aldi on the island?
They sell rye sourdough loaves......I hope your bread maker does the business for you!

[Deb P]

Do you have Aldi on the island?
They sell rye sourdough loaves......I hope your bread maker does the business for you!

Do you have Aldi on the island?
They sell rye sourdough loaves......I hope your bread maker does the business for you!

I just checked out of interest, branches in Sandown and Cowes!

[ACE]

She will not let me go in there    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL7jyXCQ2Zc

[ACE]

Good news the bread maker made a perfect sourdough loaf. For those that might be interested the bread maker is Tower brand  model T11002. Not cheap but works well even on the heavier flours

[galina]

Great, you cracked it.  Enjoy the bread.